Comments on: Religious “leaders” under investigation http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/ Religion, Policy, Activism Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:58:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Pastor Turner http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2638 Pastor Turner Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:21:17 +0000 http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/#comment-2638 I have certainly enjoyed reading the article and comments on this site. I have been asking God where are the true believers that the prophet saw when he thought himself to be the last one. It is good to know that others are getting just as sick of these money chasers and greedy dogs as I am. They fleece the flock of God, and have sold the poor for a pair of shoes, and its time that God's people started doing some house cleaning. The hour has come when judgement must begin in the house of God, and if judgement begins first as us, what shall be the end of those that obey not the gospel? I have certainly enjoyed reading the article and comments on this site. I have been asking God where are the true believers that the prophet saw when he thought himself to be the last one.

It is good to know that others are getting just as sick of these money chasers and greedy dogs as I am.

They fleece the flock of God, and have sold the poor for a pair of shoes, and its time that God’s people started doing some house cleaning.

The hour has come when judgement must begin in the house of God, and if judgement begins first as us, what shall be the end of those that obey not the gospel?

]]> By: Heber Brown, III http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2628 Heber Brown, III Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:43:45 +0000 http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/#comment-2628 Very thoughtful commentary, Matthew. You raise many valid questions that we should give energy to addressing. I derived a few questions from your summation: 1. Is God greater/higher/above every man-made religion? (Can any 1 religion contain/arrest/withhold Almighty God?) 2. In light of your commentary, what should be the response of Believers (of whatever Faith) who follow the tenets of a so-called imperfect religion? (Should they abandon their religion?) Very thoughtful commentary, Matthew. You raise many valid questions that we should give energy to addressing. I derived a few questions from your summation:

1. Is God greater/higher/above every man-made religion? (Can any 1 religion contain/arrest/withhold Almighty God?)

2. In light of your commentary, what should be the response of Believers (of whatever Faith) who follow the tenets of a so-called imperfect religion? (Should they abandon their religion?)

]]> By: Matthew http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2620 Matthew Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:01:24 +0000 http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/#comment-2620 I truly enjoyed reading all the posts above, everyone's thoughts were expressed extremely well. From what I gathered, everyone's thoughts on this issue are along the same line of thinking; prosperity gospel is not for the benefit of the congregation that fills its walls, rather the preacher that stands upon its pulpit. What noone seems to address, however, is the fact that faith has allowed the weak and helpless to be manipulated once again. Most of the posts above talk about their own view or another minister's view of God and his teachings, the way they ought to be. Not once amongst the posts was faith itself ever called into question. Now, I'm not saying I don't believe in a higher power, I am simply playing Devil's Advocate. Religion is man made, imperfect, and often wielded as a weapon of power, rather than a tool of good. Maybe the religious establishments of the world need to be reexamined and held accountable for their actions, when so frequently they are given a free pass. The Vatican is the richest country in the world, which helped to settle the alarmingly numerous scandles within the Catholic Church. We argue that the fundamentalists are the ones who give religion a bad name, but it is all too apparent that they are not the only ones. What does it say about religion when those who have chosen to give their lives to it, lead congregations only for their own gain or sinful pleasures. Of course, not all religious leaders have hidden agendas, but an alarming amount do. What it does tell us is that although there may be a divine power, religion is anything but perfect. It is widely believed that man does not have the capability to create true perfection, yet religious teaching is certainly man made and we seek perfection amongst its scriptures. Why can we not see that religion is simply another man made device, imperfect and harmful in far more ways than it is divine and benevolent. I do not move to say that people should not practice faith, rather I simply suggest we keep faith in a higher power, not the religions and religious leaders who try and tell us what that higher power is or wants from us. How do they know any better than we do, we are all God's children after all. It is often said that faith and God are beyond the laws of science, therefore, they cannot be disproven through the use of reason. Are our religious leaders beyond the laws of science as well, I think not, as we can see many think they are, how else could you find reason and rationale in what they preach? I truly enjoyed reading all the posts above, everyone’s thoughts were expressed extremely well. From what I gathered, everyone’s thoughts on this issue are along the same line of thinking; prosperity gospel is not for the benefit of the congregation that fills its walls, rather the preacher that stands upon its pulpit. What noone seems to address, however, is the fact that faith has allowed the weak and helpless to be manipulated once again. Most of the posts above talk about their own view or another minister’s view of God and his teachings, the way they ought to be. Not once amongst the posts was faith itself ever called into question. Now, I’m not saying I don’t believe in a higher power, I am simply playing Devil’s Advocate. Religion is man made, imperfect, and often wielded as a weapon of power, rather than a tool of good. Maybe the religious establishments of the world need to be reexamined and held accountable for their actions, when so frequently they are given a free pass. The Vatican is the richest country in the world, which helped to settle the alarmingly numerous scandles within the Catholic Church. We argue that the fundamentalists are the ones who give religion a bad name, but it is all too apparent that they are not the only ones. What does it say about religion when those who have chosen to give their lives to it, lead congregations only for their own gain or sinful pleasures. Of course, not all religious leaders have hidden agendas, but an alarming amount do. What it does tell us is that although there may be a divine power, religion is anything but perfect. It is widely believed that man does not have the capability to create true perfection, yet religious teaching is certainly man made and we seek perfection amongst its scriptures. Why can we not see that religion is simply another man made device, imperfect and harmful in far more ways than it is divine and benevolent. I do not move to say that people should not practice faith, rather I simply suggest we keep faith in a higher power, not the religions and religious leaders who try and tell us what that higher power is or wants from us. How do they know any better than we do, we are all God’s children after all. It is often said that faith and God are beyond the laws of science, therefore, they cannot be disproven through the use of reason. Are our religious leaders beyond the laws of science as well, I think not, as we can see many think they are, how else could you find reason and rationale in what they preach?

]]> By: DONTBITEMYTONGUE http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2507 DONTBITEMYTONGUE Sat, 22 Dec 2007 22:37:41 +0000 http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/#comment-2507 THE WAY I SEE ALL OF THIS IS THAT OUR SOCIETY,CAPITALISM,TRADITION,LOVE OF MONEY,CELEBRITES,COVETING POWER,PRESTIGE AND POWER, DICTATES THIS WHOLE MESS W/IN CHRISTIANDOM. THE EARLY CHURCH HAD TO FIGHT THE "GOOD FIGHT" OF FAITH. THEY WERE PERSECUTED AND EVEN KILLED FOR THEIR FAITH AND LOVE FOR GOD. NOT SO IN THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE CAN PRETTY MUCH BELIEVE WHAT AND WORSHIP HOW WE WANT. THERE IS A FIGHT THAT'S GOING ON HERE BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S A FIGHT FOR MORALITY. LET'S FACE IT WE HAVE EVERYTHING AT OUR DISPOSAL. WHEN U LIVE IN AFFLUENCE(AND YES EVEN THE LESS FORTUNATE IN OUR SOCIETY HAS IT BETTER THAN MOST OF THE WORLD) WHAT MATTERS BECOMES DISTORTED. WE HAVE TOO MANY POINTS OF REFERENCE AS TO WHAT SUCCESS AND FAILURE IS OR SUPPOSE TO LOOK LIKE. SO I'M NOT DISSILLUSIONED WHEN OUR CHURCHES FOLLOW THAT SECULAR PATH OF GETTING FOR YOURSELF. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WILL HAPPEN IN MY LIFETIME WHERE CHRISTIANS IN THIS COUNTRY WILL BE FED TO LIONS OR EXECUTED FOR BELIEVING IN CHRIST. ALTHOUGH, THAT'S WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. WE CAN SAY THAT WE LOVE GOD ALL DAY LONG BUT WE CONTRADICT OURSELVES EVERYDAY BY THE LIVES WE LIVE. I BELIEVE IF THERE WAS A LITTLE MORE HEAT ON OUR VERY EXISTENCE THAT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE US CLING TO THE CROSS MORE OFTEN. UNTIL THEN PEOPLE WILL BE CARNAL, SECULAR AND SELFISH. YOU SEE IT'S EASY TO PREACH IN A PULPIT WHEN U KNOW THAT U ARE SAFE FROM HARM. I CHALLENGE PREACHERS AND SPIRITUAL LEADERS TODAY TO BE MORE BOLD GOING INTO THE POLITICAL ARENA,(CNN'S, FOX NEWS, OF OUR CULTURE) AND PREACH GOD'S TRUTH. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A WATERED DOWN,SEEKER SENSITIVE,POLITICALLY CORRECT MESSAGE, I'M TALKING JOHN THE BAPTIST TURN OR BURN TYPE MESSSAGE. THE BAPTIST KNEW THAT THIS WOULD COST HIM HIS LIFE BUT HE WAS COMPELLED. WHAT COMPELLED HIM AND THE OTHER GREATS WE READ ABOUT IN THE BIBLE YOU MIGHT ASK WAS A TRUE CONVICTION AS WELL AS A TRUE LOVE FOR THERE LORD. I USED THE WORD LORD THERE BECAUSE THE WORD LORD ACTUALLY MEANS "CONTROLLER." THEY WERE TRULY CONTROLLED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD. IF YOU USE THE WORD CONTROL TO PEOPLE TODAY(ESPECIALLY WOMEN) AND THEY WILL TELL YOU WHERE TO GO(AND THAT PLACE AINT HEAVEN). GOD WANTS TO CONTROL US AND MOST OF US AINT HAVIN' IT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEIR(PEOPLE OF THE BIBLE) FIGHT WAS HARDER IT WAS JUST MORE CUT AND DRY BLACK AND WHITE. YOU SEE OURS IS MORE DECEPTIVE. WE BELIEVE IF IT LOOKS GOOD, TALKS GOOD, SMELLS GOOD, FEELS GOOD, SOUNDS GOOD, IT MUST BE RIGHT. SO IN SOME RESPECTS OUR FIGHT OF FAITH CAN SEEM HARDER. I'VE BEEN THERE, I HAVE FOUR DAUHGHTERS AND WHEN I USED TO SEE OTHER FAMILIES WHO HAD THINGS THAT I COULDN'T GET FOR MY GIRLS I BECAME JEALOUS. I LOOKED AT IT LIKE, I'M A GOOD CHRISTIAN SO ME AND MINE DESERVE TO HAVE THOSE THINGS TOO. I CAN TELL U THAT IN OUR SOCIETY WHEN U HAVE THINGS PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE THE CAT'S MEOW. TAKE OPRAH FOR INSTANCE OR ANYBODY W/ FAME OR POWER(IT CAN EVEN BE THE PASTOR OF YOUR CHURCH) WHEN U ARE AROUND THEM YOU FEEL A SENSE OF LESS-THAN(BE HONEST). THAT FEELING U FEEL IS DECEPTIVE. YOU PROBABLY DON'T THINK THAT YOU ARE ACTING A CERTAIN WAY(FAKE) BUT YOU ARE. YOU SEE THAT'S HOW THINGS(MATERIAL) MAKE US FEEL ABOUT OURSELVES AND OTHERS AND IN TURN YOU WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL A CERTAIN WAY AROUND YOU BECAUSE YOU POSSESS SOMETHING THEY DON'T. THAT'S WHY WHEN WE GET IN A PLACE TO BUY THE MERCEDES AND THE HOUSE IN THE 'BURBS WE FEEL A SENSE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT ANYTHING IS WRONG WITH THESE THINGS IN OF THEMSELVES BUT IT TAKES A VERY MATURE AND STRONG CHRISTIAN TO HANDLE THESE THINGS. SO I SAID ALL THAT TO SAY THIS, WE ARE BLESSED TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY. U CAN BECOME ALL U CAN BE AND WHAT COMES ALONG W/ THAT IS SUCCESS AND MATERIAL GAIN. BUT THE DANGER OF ALL THAT IS THAT WE CAN LOSE OUR SOULS OVER THOSE SAME THINGS(SELAH). I BELIEVE JESUS KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE WARNED ABOUT RICHES. I BELIEVE HE KNOWS MORE ABOUT THAT THAN CREFALO(AND THE OTHERS WHO PREACH PROSPERITY). THE WAY I SEE ALL OF THIS IS THAT OUR SOCIETY,CAPITALISM,TRADITION,LOVE OF MONEY,CELEBRITES,COVETING POWER,PRESTIGE AND POWER, DICTATES THIS WHOLE MESS W/IN CHRISTIANDOM. THE EARLY CHURCH HAD TO FIGHT THE “GOOD FIGHT” OF FAITH. THEY WERE PERSECUTED AND EVEN KILLED FOR THEIR FAITH AND LOVE FOR GOD. NOT SO IN THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE CAN PRETTY MUCH BELIEVE WHAT AND WORSHIP HOW WE WANT. THERE IS A FIGHT THAT’S GOING ON HERE BUT I WOULD SAY THAT IT’S A FIGHT FOR MORALITY. LET’S FACE IT WE HAVE EVERYTHING AT OUR DISPOSAL. WHEN U LIVE IN AFFLUENCE(AND YES EVEN THE LESS FORTUNATE IN OUR SOCIETY HAS IT BETTER THAN MOST OF THE WORLD) WHAT MATTERS BECOMES DISTORTED. WE HAVE TOO MANY POINTS OF REFERENCE AS TO WHAT SUCCESS AND FAILURE IS OR SUPPOSE TO LOOK LIKE. SO I’M NOT DISSILLUSIONED WHEN OUR CHURCHES FOLLOW THAT SECULAR PATH OF GETTING FOR YOURSELF.
I DON’T BELIEVE THAT IT WILL HAPPEN IN MY LIFETIME WHERE CHRISTIANS IN THIS COUNTRY WILL BE FED TO LIONS OR EXECUTED FOR BELIEVING IN CHRIST. ALTHOUGH, THAT’S WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. WE CAN SAY THAT WE LOVE GOD ALL DAY LONG BUT WE CONTRADICT OURSELVES EVERYDAY BY THE LIVES WE LIVE. I BELIEVE IF THERE WAS A LITTLE MORE HEAT ON OUR VERY EXISTENCE THAT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE US CLING TO THE CROSS MORE OFTEN. UNTIL THEN PEOPLE WILL BE CARNAL, SECULAR AND SELFISH. YOU SEE IT’S EASY TO PREACH IN A PULPIT WHEN U KNOW THAT U ARE SAFE FROM HARM. I CHALLENGE PREACHERS AND SPIRITUAL LEADERS TODAY TO BE MORE BOLD GOING INTO THE POLITICAL ARENA,(CNN’S, FOX NEWS, OF OUR CULTURE) AND PREACH GOD’S TRUTH. I’M NOT TALKING ABOUT A WATERED DOWN,SEEKER SENSITIVE,POLITICALLY CORRECT MESSAGE, I’M TALKING JOHN THE BAPTIST TURN OR BURN TYPE MESSSAGE. THE BAPTIST KNEW THAT THIS WOULD COST HIM HIS LIFE BUT HE WAS COMPELLED. WHAT COMPELLED HIM AND THE OTHER GREATS WE READ ABOUT IN THE BIBLE YOU MIGHT ASK WAS A TRUE CONVICTION AS WELL AS A TRUE LOVE FOR THERE LORD. I USED THE WORD LORD THERE BECAUSE THE WORD LORD ACTUALLY MEANS “CONTROLLER.” THEY WERE TRULY CONTROLLED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD. IF YOU USE THE WORD CONTROL TO PEOPLE TODAY(ESPECIALLY WOMEN) AND THEY WILL TELL YOU WHERE TO GO(AND THAT PLACE AINT HEAVEN). GOD WANTS TO CONTROL US AND MOST OF US AINT HAVIN’ IT.

I’M NOT SAYING THAT THEIR(PEOPLE OF THE BIBLE) FIGHT WAS HARDER IT WAS JUST MORE CUT AND DRY BLACK AND WHITE. YOU SEE OURS IS MORE DECEPTIVE. WE BELIEVE IF IT LOOKS GOOD, TALKS GOOD, SMELLS GOOD, FEELS GOOD, SOUNDS GOOD, IT MUST BE RIGHT. SO IN SOME RESPECTS OUR FIGHT OF FAITH CAN SEEM HARDER. I’VE BEEN THERE, I HAVE FOUR DAUHGHTERS AND WHEN I USED TO SEE OTHER FAMILIES WHO HAD THINGS THAT I COULDN’T GET FOR MY GIRLS I BECAME JEALOUS. I LOOKED AT IT LIKE, I’M A GOOD CHRISTIAN SO ME AND MINE DESERVE TO HAVE THOSE THINGS TOO. I CAN TELL U THAT IN OUR SOCIETY WHEN U HAVE THINGS PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE THE CAT’S MEOW. TAKE OPRAH FOR INSTANCE OR ANYBODY W/ FAME OR POWER(IT CAN EVEN BE THE PASTOR OF YOUR CHURCH) WHEN U ARE AROUND THEM YOU FEEL A SENSE OF LESS-THAN(BE HONEST). THAT FEELING U FEEL IS DECEPTIVE. YOU PROBABLY DON’T THINK THAT YOU ARE ACTING A CERTAIN WAY(FAKE) BUT YOU ARE. YOU SEE THAT’S HOW THINGS(MATERIAL) MAKE US FEEL ABOUT OURSELVES AND OTHERS AND IN TURN YOU WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL A CERTAIN WAY AROUND YOU BECAUSE YOU POSSESS SOMETHING THEY DON’T. THAT’S WHY WHEN WE GET IN A PLACE TO BUY THE MERCEDES AND THE HOUSE IN THE ‘BURBS WE FEEL A SENSE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT. I’M NOT SAYING THAT ANYTHING IS WRONG WITH THESE THINGS IN OF THEMSELVES BUT IT TAKES A VERY MATURE AND STRONG CHRISTIAN TO HANDLE THESE THINGS. SO I SAID ALL THAT TO SAY THIS, WE ARE BLESSED TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY. U CAN BECOME ALL U CAN BE AND WHAT COMES ALONG W/ THAT IS SUCCESS AND MATERIAL GAIN. BUT THE DANGER OF ALL THAT IS THAT WE CAN LOSE OUR SOULS OVER THOSE SAME THINGS(SELAH). I BELIEVE JESUS KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE WARNED ABOUT RICHES. I BELIEVE HE KNOWS MORE ABOUT THAT THAN CREFALO(AND THE OTHERS WHO PREACH PROSPERITY).

]]> By: Sitawi Jahi http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2462 Sitawi Jahi Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:36:37 +0000 http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/#comment-2462 Jambo (Hello) My Brothers and Sisters We need to re-develop our Churchs to fit our needs of today. Please check out the following two links, and then re-think everything you learned www.wblr.com The Afrikan Village DR. Rev. Ray Hagins and look at this other link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQLD59fK_Iw&NR=1 then ask why have I been lied too. Peace & Blessings Jambo (Hello) My Brothers and Sisters

We need to re-develop our Churchs to fit our needs of today. Please check out the following two links, and then re-think everything you learned
http://www.wblr.com The Afrikan Village DR. Rev. Ray Hagins and look at this other link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQLD59fK_Iw&NR=1 then ask why have I been lied too.
Peace & Blessings

]]> By: Dimitri Lawrence Guy http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2455 Dimitri Lawrence Guy Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:56:33 +0000 http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/#comment-2455 copied from his ministry website (My comments included) Dr. Creflo A. Dollar ****What Does it Mean to Love God?**** If you were to ask someone if they loved God, they’d almost automatically reply, “Of course. I love the Lord with all my heart.” Every day in churches and all around the world, people say, “Lord, I love you. Oh, Jesus, I love you.” However, loving God is not just a religious quote you say to make people think you love God. (hmmmmm) In order to love God, you must first renew your mind where love is concerned. (Oh, Really??) When many people think of love, they think of human, emotional love, which is basically selfish (???) because it has conditions—it loves when the conditions are right, or when it feels like loving. This is the type of love many people try to love God with… (Dr. Dollar, read Matthew 7:5 ; Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.) …however, God is not interested in you loving Him with your feelings. Contrary to what most people think, love is not a feeling. Your feelings, like your emotions, can be unstable. (Dr. Dollar here is the Definition of Love: A strong positive emotion of regard and affection) For example, as soon as somebody dies that you didn’t think should have died, your feelings toward God might change. This is why love is a choice—it’s a decision demonstrated by action. Jesus said, “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15). To love God means to choose to obey His Word, trust His power, and worship Him. It is impossible to say you love God if these things are not in place. (Dr. Dollar, READ Galatians 5:14; For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.) Your love for God is demonstrated by the decisions you make. When you choose what you want or desire over God’s Word, you demonstrate that you love yourself more than God. (Dr. Dollar, that’s one thing you’ve demonstrated without a flaw. You certainly led by example on that one) So one of the first things you must do to love God is get rid of self, or your own desires. Doing this will help you love God, and others, the way you have been commanded in Matthew 22:34—40. When you put self first, everything you do will be to please yourself, because that’s what human, selfish love does—it seeks to satisfy self first. (Dr. Dollar, can we say that again but this time we’ll make it sound as if you’re talking to yourself. OK??? Lets try it: So one of the first things I, Dr. Dollar, must do to love God is get rid of MYSELF, or MY own desires. Doing this will help ME love God, and others, the way I have been commanded in Matthew 22:34—40. When I put MYSELF first, everything I do will be to please MYSELF, because that’s what human, selfish love does—it seeks to satisfy self first. ) However, according to Romans 5:5, the Holy Spirit has poured the love of God in our hearts; and that love gives us the ability to love with the God—kind of love, or agapé love. Agapé love is unconditional, unselfish love. Unlike selfish, human love, agapé love puts the needs of others above its own needs. This is the love God wants us to demonstrate. (Dr. Dollar, I’m assuming that you don’t smoke like I do, so why don’t you try having your pilot fly your personal jet a few thousand feet lower so your brain won’t be deprived of oxygen. Your statement about how to love is just as ridiculas as me trying to sell you a map to help you find your way back to your own house) To love God means to lose self. Everyday you have to make a decision to demonstrate the agape love of God by dying to the selfish desires that try to rule your life. (Dr. Dollar, can we say that again, but this time,the way YOU really want it to be? Let’s try it: To love Creflo Dollar means to lose self. Everyday WE have to make a decision to demonstrate the agape love for Creflo Dollar by dying to the selfish desires that try to rule OUR life.) Second Corinthians 4:11 in The Amplified Bible says, “For we who live are constantly [experiencing] being handed over to death for Jesus’ sake, that the [resurrection] life of Jesus also may be evidenced through our flesh which is liable to death.” That means in order for the love of God to be evident in your life, you have to make a quality decision to allow your thoughts, desires, emotions, and feelings to die daily. It’s impossible to love God, or others, when you have plans, purposes, and desires that are contrary to the Word of God. (Dr. Dollar, if we’re to have NO thoughts, desires, emotions, or feelings, then what is the purpose of the YOUR Prosperity Gospel? If you’ve achieved YOUR goal of implanting this message into your members that we’re to become zombie like, then exactly who is it that your message of prosperity is being preached to? Human “Feelings”, Human “Emotions”, Human “Desires” are what causes a person to WANT to prosper JUST LIKE YOU!!! Dr. Dollar, Tell your pilot to fly a little closer to the ground.) When self is the most important thing to you, you will choose self over God’s Word. God’s Word is His will; get to the point where you choose the will of God above everything. You must desire His will, even above your own happiness. That’s what it means to love God—to obey His will, not your own. For more information on pursuing the will of God for your life, visit our online bookstore , and order your copy of the message Loving God by Putting Self Aside. This teaching will give you insight on what it means to love God. (Dr. Dollar, Do you really Love God? Do YOU really believe in God? Don’t you think it would be a good idea if YOU could meet God and get some Clarification?? Why don’t you direct your pilot to aim the nose of your private jet plane STRAIGHT UP towards space. As Hebrews 4:16 tells us, “Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace." Tell your pilot that he can bail out with a parachute after he puts the plane on autopilot. Then, IF IT BE HIS WILL, God will allow you to come back and give us another message.) copied from his ministry website (My comments included)

Dr. Creflo A. Dollar
****What Does it Mean to Love God?****

If you were to ask someone if they loved God, they’d almost automatically reply, “Of course. I love the Lord with all my heart.” Every day in churches and all around the world, people say, “Lord, I love you. Oh, Jesus, I love you.” However, loving God is not just a religious quote you say to make people think you love God.

(hmmmmm)

In order to love God, you must first renew your mind where love is concerned.

(Oh, Really??)

When many people think of love, they think of human, emotional love, which is basically selfish (???) because it has conditions—it loves when the conditions are right, or when it feels like loving. This is the type of love many people try to love God with…

(Dr. Dollar, read Matthew 7:5 ; Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.)

…however, God is not interested in you loving Him with your feelings. Contrary to what most people think, love is not a feeling. Your feelings, like your emotions, can be unstable.

(Dr. Dollar here is the Definition of Love: A strong positive emotion of regard and affection)

For example, as soon as somebody dies that you didn’t think should have died, your feelings toward God might change. This is why love is a choice—it’s a decision demonstrated by action. Jesus said, “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15). To love God means to choose to obey His Word, trust His power, and worship Him. It is impossible to say you love God if these things are not in place.

(Dr. Dollar, READ Galatians 5:14; For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.)

Your love for God is demonstrated by the decisions you make. When you choose what you want or desire over God’s Word, you demonstrate that you love yourself more than God.

(Dr. Dollar, that’s one thing you’ve demonstrated without a flaw. You certainly led by example on that one)

So one of the first things you must do to love God is get rid of self, or your own desires. Doing this will help you love God, and others, the way you have been commanded in Matthew 22:34—40.

When you put self first, everything you do will be to please yourself, because that’s what human, selfish love does—it seeks to satisfy self first.

(Dr. Dollar, can we say that again but this time we’ll make it sound as if you’re talking to yourself. OK??? Lets try it: So one of the first things I, Dr. Dollar, must do to love God is get rid of MYSELF, or MY own desires. Doing this will help ME love God, and others, the way I have been commanded in Matthew 22:34—40. When I put MYSELF first, everything I do will be to please MYSELF, because that’s what human, selfish love does—it seeks to satisfy self first. )

However, according to Romans 5:5, the Holy Spirit has poured the love of God in our hearts; and that love gives us the ability to love with the God—kind of love, or agapé love. Agapé love is unconditional, unselfish love. Unlike selfish, human love, agapé love puts the needs of others above its own needs. This is the love God wants us to demonstrate.

(Dr. Dollar, I’m assuming that you don’t smoke like I do, so why don’t you try having your pilot fly your personal jet a few thousand feet lower so your brain won’t be deprived of oxygen. Your statement about how to love is just as ridiculas as me trying to sell you a map to help you find your way back to your own house)

To love God means to lose self. Everyday you have to make a decision to demonstrate the agape love of God by dying to the selfish desires that try to rule your life.

(Dr. Dollar, can we say that again, but this time,the way YOU really want it to be? Let’s try it: To love Creflo Dollar means to lose self. Everyday WE have to make a decision to demonstrate the agape love for Creflo Dollar by dying to the selfish desires that try to rule OUR life.)

Second Corinthians 4:11 in The Amplified Bible says, “For we who live are constantly [experiencing] being handed over to death for Jesus’ sake, that the [resurrection] life of Jesus also may be evidenced through our flesh which is liable to death.” That means in order for the love of God to be evident in your life, you have to make a quality decision to allow your thoughts, desires, emotions, and feelings to die daily. It’s impossible to love God, or others, when you have plans, purposes, and desires that are contrary to the Word of God.

(Dr. Dollar, if we’re to have NO thoughts, desires, emotions, or feelings, then what is the purpose of the YOUR Prosperity Gospel? If you’ve achieved YOUR goal of implanting this message into your members that we’re to become zombie like, then exactly who is it that your message of prosperity is being preached to? Human “Feelings”, Human “Emotions”, Human “Desires” are what causes a person to WANT to prosper JUST LIKE YOU!!! Dr. Dollar, Tell your pilot to fly a little closer to the ground.)

When self is the most important thing to you, you will choose self over God’s Word. God’s Word is His will; get to the point where you choose the will of God above everything. You must desire His will, even above your own happiness. That’s what it means to love God—to obey His will, not your own.

For more information on pursuing the will of God for your life, visit our online bookstore , and order your copy of the message Loving God by Putting Self Aside. This teaching will give you insight on what it means to love God.

(Dr. Dollar, Do you really Love God? Do YOU really believe in God? Don’t you think it would be a good idea if YOU could meet God and get some Clarification?? Why don’t you direct your pilot to aim the nose of your private jet plane STRAIGHT UP towards space. As Hebrews 4:16 tells us, “Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace.” Tell your pilot that he can bail out with a parachute after he puts the plane on autopilot. Then, IF IT BE HIS WILL, God will allow you to come back and give us another message.)

]]> By: Dimitri Lawrence Guy http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2454 Dimitri Lawrence Guy Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:32:42 +0000 http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/#comment-2454 George Washington FATHER OF OUR COUNTRY Hillary Clinton MOTHER OF OUR COUNTRY George Washington FATHER OF OUR COUNTRY

Hillary Clinton MOTHER OF OUR COUNTRY

]]> By: Dimitri Lawrence Guy http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2452 Dimitri Lawrence Guy Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:26:41 +0000 http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/#comment-2452 Hey there, Dr. Creflo Dollar, do YOU love God????????? Do YOU follow his word???????? Matthew 5:42 says Give to him that asketh thee, and from him thatGive to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee, turn not thou away. Evelyn Williamson, who joined the church in 1993, said she was instructed during a class for new members to turn over her financial records. She refused. When the power to her home was turned off, Williamson said, she called the church for financial assistance. She said a church minister refused her request and told her that if she had turned over her finances to God she wouldn’t need help. Williamson said she left the church after four months when church members refused to answer her calls. Dr. Creflo Dollar, YOUR love for God is demonstrated by the decisions YOU make. Dr. Dollar, When YOU choose what YOU want or desire over God’s Word, YOU demonstrate that YOU love YOURSELF more than God. So one of the first things YOU must do to love God is get rid of self, or YOUR own desires. Doing this will help YOU love God, and others, the way YOU have been commanded in Matthew 22:34—40. Dr Dollar, YOU should practice what YOU preach. YOU!! YOU!! YOU. Hey there, Dr. Creflo Dollar, do YOU love God?????????

Do YOU follow his word????????

Matthew 5:42 says Give to him that asketh thee, and from him thatGive to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee, turn not thou away.

Evelyn Williamson, who joined the church in 1993, said she was instructed during a class for new members to turn over her financial records. She refused. When the power to her home was turned off, Williamson said, she called the church for financial assistance.

She said a church minister refused her request and told her that if she had turned over her finances to God she wouldn’t need help. Williamson said she left the church after four months when church members refused to answer her calls.

Dr. Creflo Dollar, YOUR love for God is demonstrated by the decisions YOU make. Dr. Dollar, When YOU choose what YOU want or desire over God’s Word, YOU demonstrate that YOU love YOURSELF more than God. So one of the first things YOU must do to love God is get rid of self, or YOUR own desires. Doing this will help YOU love God, and others, the way YOU have been commanded in Matthew 22:34—40.

Dr Dollar, YOU should practice what YOU preach. YOU!! YOU!! YOU.

]]> By: Dimitri Lawrence Guy http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2425 Dimitri Lawrence Guy Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:07:37 +0000 http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/#comment-2425 AN EXAMPLE OF “DO AS I SAY AND NOT AS I DO” copied from his ministry website Dr. Creflo A. Dollar ****What Does it Mean to Love God?**** If you were to ask someone if they loved God, they’d almost automatically reply, “Of course. I love the Lord with all my heart.” Every day in churches and all around the world, people say, “Lord, I love you. Oh, Jesus, I love you.” However, loving God is not just a religious quote you say to make people think you love God. In order to love God, you must first renew your mind where love is concerned. When many people think of love, they think of human, emotional love, which is basically selfish because it has conditions—it loves when the conditions are right, or when it feels like loving. This is the type of love many people try to love God with; however, God is not interested in you loving Him with your feelings. Contrary to what most people think, love is not a feeling. Your feelings, like your emotions, can be unstable. For example, as soon as somebody dies that you didn’t think should have died, your feelings toward God might change. This is why love is a choice—it’s a decision demonstrated by action. Jesus said, “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15). To love God means to choose to obey His Word, trust His power, and worship Him. It is impossible to say you love God if these things are not in place. Your love for God is demonstrated by the decisions you make. When you choose what you want or desire over God’s Word, you demonstrate that you love yourself more than God. So one of the first things you must do to love God is get rid of self, or your own desires. Doing this will help you love God, and others, the way you have been commanded in Matthew 22:34—40. When you put self first, everything you do will be to please yourself, because that’s what human, selfish love does—it seeks to satisfy self first. However, according to Romans 5:5, the Holy Spirit has poured the love of God in our hearts; and that love gives us the ability to love with the God—kind of love, or agapé love. Agapé love is unconditional, unselfish love. Unlike selfish, human love, agapé love puts the needs of others above its own needs. This is the love God wants us to demonstrate. To love God means to lose self. Everyday you have to make a decision to demonstrate the agape love of God by dying to the selfish desires that try to rule your life. Second Corinthians 4:11 in The Amplified Bible says, “For we who live are constantly [experiencing] being handed over to death for Jesus’ sake, that the [resurrection] life of Jesus also may be evidenced through our flesh which is liable to death.” That means in order for the love of God to be evident in your life, you have to make a quality decision to allow your thoughts, desires, emotions, and feelings to die daily. It’s impossible to love God, or others, when you have plans, purposes, and desires that are contrary to the Word of God. When self is the most important thing to you, you will choose self over God’s Word. God’s Word is His will; get to the point where you choose the will of God above everything. You must desire His will, even above your own happiness. That’s what it means to love God—to obey His will, not your own. For more information on pursuing the will of God for your life, visit our online bookstore , and order your copy of the message Loving God by Putting Self Aside. This teaching will give you insight on what it means to love God. AN EXAMPLE OF “DO AS I SAY AND NOT AS I DO”
copied from his ministry website

Dr. Creflo A. Dollar
****What Does it Mean to Love God?****

If you were to ask someone if they loved God, they’d almost automatically reply, “Of course. I love the Lord with all my heart.” Every day in churches and all around the world, people say, “Lord, I love you. Oh, Jesus, I love you.” However, loving God is not just a religious quote you say to make people think you love God.

In order to love God, you must first renew your mind where love is concerned. When many people think of love, they think of human, emotional love, which is basically selfish because it has conditions—it loves when the conditions are right, or when it feels like loving. This is the type of love many people try to love God with; however, God is not interested in you loving Him with your feelings.

Contrary to what most people think, love is not a feeling. Your feelings, like your emotions, can be unstable. For example, as soon as somebody dies that you didn’t think should have died, your feelings toward God might change. This is why love is a choice—it’s a decision demonstrated by action. Jesus said, “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15). To love God means to choose to obey His Word, trust His power, and worship Him. It is impossible to say you love God if these things are not in place.

Your love for God is demonstrated by the decisions you make. When you choose what you want or desire over God’s Word, you demonstrate that you love yourself more than God. So one of the first things you must do to love God is get rid of self, or your own desires. Doing this will help you love God, and others, the way you have been commanded in Matthew 22:34—40.

When you put self first, everything you do will be to please yourself, because that’s what human, selfish love does—it seeks to satisfy self first. However, according to Romans 5:5, the Holy Spirit has poured the love of God in our hearts; and that love gives us the ability to love with the God—kind of love, or agapé love. Agapé love is unconditional, unselfish love. Unlike selfish, human love, agapé love puts the needs of others above its own needs. This is the love God wants us to demonstrate.

To love God means to lose self. Everyday you have to make a decision to demonstrate the agape love of God by dying to the selfish desires that try to rule your life. Second Corinthians 4:11 in The Amplified Bible says, “For we who live are constantly [experiencing] being handed over to death for Jesus’ sake, that the [resurrection] life of Jesus also may be evidenced through our flesh which is liable to death.” That means in order for the love of God to be evident in your life, you have to make a quality decision to allow your thoughts, desires, emotions, and feelings to die daily. It’s impossible to love God, or others, when you have plans, purposes, and desires that are contrary to the Word of God.

When self is the most important thing to you, you will choose self over God’s Word. God’s Word is His will; get to the point where you choose the will of God above everything. You must desire His will, even above your own happiness. That’s what it means to love God—to obey His will, not your own.

For more information on pursuing the will of God for your life, visit our online bookstore , and order your copy of the message Loving God by Putting Self Aside. This teaching will give you insight on what it means to love God.

]]> By: Dimitri Lawrence Guy http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-2417 Dimitri Lawrence Guy Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:48:49 +0000 http://faithinactiononline.com/2007/11/16/religious-leaders-under-investigation/#comment-2417 To: Mr. & Mrs. Middle or Lower Middle Class Mega Church member Re: The True *** GOSPEL OF PROSPERITY*** King James Bible Luke 19:26 “For I say unto you, That unto every one which …hath…shall be given; …and from him that …hath not, …even that (which) he hath …shall …be… taken…away …from …him.” Which category do you believe you’re in? Which category do you believe your… M-e-g-a C-h-u-r-c-h …considers… YOU to be in??? The Bible considers RICH people to be those “Which Hath”. The Bible considers the poor as those “Which Hath Not”. So, as a Mega Church member who tithes 10% of YOUR income, but you’re somewhere between middle to lower middle class or even below, and you’re HOPING that “God” is going to “Bless” you for your faithful and unselfish giving,… WHICH category would you seriously believe YOUR Mega Church …C-O-N-S-I-D-E-R-S… YOU to be in??? Here is some NEWS for you … as far as YOUR Mega Church is concerned, the last part of that bible verse applies to YOU!!! YOU’RE not RICH so YOU are the one “Which Hath Not!” So, the little that you DO “Hath” …is being taken away from you A-L-R-E-A-D-Y!! (10% of your income and “offerings” being given to the church) The ONLY People… who are TRULY being “Blessed” (REPAID) by “GIVING” to a Mega Church are the …RICH… people, THOSE WHICH HATH (They also “HATH” access to the pastor 24 / 7). It is to THEM ..that …MORE IS… ALREADY… BEING …GIVEN!!! They’re NOT the ones who are W-A-I-T-I-N-G for “God” to BURST through the clouds and pour out blessings upon them. THEY’RE ALREADY RECEIVING IT in the form of B-E-N-E-F-I-T-S from the GOVERNMENT (IRS) AND THE PASTOR (FAVORS Through the Church) that YOU (as a “HATH NOT”) WILL NOT receive. If YOUR Pastor (who preaches about Prosperity) REALLY WANTED to see YOU prosper, don’t YOU think it would be a good idea for HIM to at LEAST tell you the TRUTH (IN FULL DETAIL ) about how HE’S Prospering??? In motivational seminars, you’re told to “treat a successful businessman to lunch and ask him to TELL YOU how HE became successful”. Do you believe that YOUR Mega Church Pastor would be willing to put you down in his appointment book?? Don’t YOU think it’s about time for you to be told the WHOLE truth by YOUR Pastor before you decide to waste anymore of your time and money at that church??? SINCERE LEADERS L-E-A-D B-Y E-X-A-M-P-L-E !!! IF HE’S WILLING… AND, IF HE IS SINCERE ABOUT WANTING TO SEE YOU PROSPER THE WAY HE HAS, THIS IS WHAT HE SHOULD TELL YOU: “Brother / Sister, Unless you’ve got some extraordinary talent, or some OTHER sure shot business plan to make Millions for yourself, If you want the “Almighty God” of the “Bible” to bless you, You Must be willing and motivated to do exactly what I and others LIKE me have already done AND are currently doing in order to have the type of success that We’re Now Enjoying. Do you really want it?? If so, then you can have it! Praise the Lord, Thank you Jesus!! So, this is what you have to do: ” You Have To… Start Y-O-U-R O-W-N Church!!!” ” My Brother / Sister, UNLESS YOU’RE WILLING TO START YOUR OWN CHURCH, YOU WON’T BE….. “BLESSED”….. LIKE ME OR ANY OTHER MEGA CHURCH PREACHER / EVANGELIST / PASTOR / MINISTER !!!” ” Ha-la-luuuu-yah!! Brother, Sister, At every Sunday Morning worship service, you can have All of the “Hath Not’s” practically bowing down at your footstool, humbly, and with meekness, offering a tenth of their precious labor to YOU, the CHILD OF THE KING!! Praise God!!” “Yes, My Brother, My Sister, when you yourself become a Mega Church Pastor like Me and you’ve got all of that money justa… ROOOOOOLLIN’ IN, Oh, praise God, THEN you can have yo-self a Bentley! AND, you can have a Rolls Royce. Thaaaats right, Brother / Sister. Why have only one? Have two! Praise the Lord. THEN, you can reside in a Mansion that sits on the top of that Hill and have it staffed with the best maids and butlers who’ll eagerly wait on you on hand and foot! Gah-Looo-rey-tah-God!!!” “WoooHooo!! Thaaank yah, Jeeeesus!! My Lord!! MMmmmmm!! And the landscapers!! Oh, Lord… You should watch em as they’re doin’ all of the tendin’ to on all of that beautiful sprawlin’ glorified property property of yours!! LLLLLoooord, Have Mercy!!! Boooooy, wait til’ ya see it. And The pool cleaners! God Bless em. They’re justa keepin’ that pool lookin’ so crispy clean and just so blue and so perrrrdy!! It’s Just like lookin’ up at dah sky on a clear sunny day!! Praise God!! Oh, Thank Yah Jesus! And Don’t forget you gotta have somebody to look after all a dem other fancy cars you’ll be collectin’, Brotha!! . Glooooory tah God. “THEN, My Brother / Sister, just you wait til dat precious moment comes when ya get tah taste the finest, Theeeeee mmmmost de-li-cious foods and desserts that God has ever blessed a mans hands to create Gah-lory-tah God... AND, They're all prepared for ya by your very own Professional Chef. LLLLLLooorrrrd HAVE MERCY!!! um, um um!! Ooooh, my God!! YOU just wait till ya get a taste of that. Praaaaise God!!! MMMMMMMMMMM … ummmm ummm um um!!! Tah he he he!! Thank Yah, Jesus!!” Haaaa Ba Sha Ba La Kooom By Yah Ha Ba Shaa La Hahhh!!! OOooooh, Gah-looo-rey-tah-God!!” “AND THEN, THEN, THEN, Oh Lord, Jesus! THEN, When You Look At Yourself in the Mirror, Glory tah God, Standin' there wearing the finest and most expensive Taylor made suits!! Yes Sir Reee Lord!! Clothing fit for Kings AND Queens!! Oh, Yes Sir!! R-O-Y-A-L-T-Y !!! GAH-LOOO-RE-TAH-GOD, HA-LAY-LU-YAH!! Thank Yah, Jeeesus!! Ya see, cause NOW, You’re ACTIN’ LIKE The KINGS Kid. Bless God!! YOU’VE PUT YOURSELF IN THE POSITION TO BE BLESSED BY THE LORD THY GOD!!!” Yes, Sir. Oh, yes Lord! thank yah! God is Good!! I SAID YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS GOOD!! Praise the Lord. Just give him praise right now. Thank you Jesus.” “THEN, Then, then, when ya need to get away from all ah da cryin’, and all da belly achin’ that’s goin’ on all around ya, Prrrrraaaaise the Lord, HE SAID THAT HE’LL DELIVER YA, DIDN’T HE?? That’s just what he’ll do for ya… Thaaaaank ya Lord… Give him all the praise!! HE’ LL HAVE YOU MOUNTED UP ON WINGS AND SOARING SO HIGH IN THE SKY LIKE THE EAGLES IN JUST NO TIME AT ALL! Glory da God!!” “You can just jump rrrrrright oooooon up in that beautiful private jet airplane and just flyyyyyy, flyyyyyyy, flyyyyyy right on away from here, Brother, and tah anywhere Ya Wont To. HA-LA-LUUU-YA! Can I get an AMEN, Brother / Sister?? Gloooory tah God, Thank you Jeeeeeesus!! Praaaaise him, just give him praise. Thank ya Lord.” “OOOOoooo, Ha-la-luuuuu-yah!!!! Ha-la-luuuuu-yah!! Glory to God!!” “Now, there’s just one more VERY important thaang ya gotta remember. The people who you’ve GOT to pray for, are the ones which HATH NOT. Those are the ones ya gotta lay hands on and pray over. It looks good. It’ll make em feel better. But never, never, never offer tah tell em exactly what they gotta do dah get tah where YOU are. If the Lord really wonts em ta know, just let HIM lead em to ya just like he led YOU tah me. Now ya got all a dat??” “Well, Praise The Lord. Just give em Praise! CAUSE NOW, THAT YOU’VE GOTTEN YOURSELF IN A POSITION TO BE BLESSED, NOW HE CAN BLESS YA! NOW HE CAN CAUSE YA TAH PROSPER! PRAISE THE LORD HA HA!! NOW HE CAN MAKE EVERY THANG YA TOUCH TURN INTO GOLD GAH-LOOO-REY- TA- GOD!!! ALL YA GOTTA DO IS JUST HANG RIGHT ON IN THEIR BROTHER / SISTER CAUSE NOW, YOU’RE ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW PATH TO PROSPERITY, AH HA!! THE PATH THAT FEW WILL FIND ER RAH HA!! LORD, HAVE MERCY!! BUT GIVE EM PRAISE BECAUSE HE HAS ANOINTED YOU, MY BROTHA / SISTA, AS HIS CHOSEN ONE, THANK YOU JESUS, TO BE THE VESSEL THAT’LL CARRY HIS WORD! Praise God. and You’ll be blessed for sure!! HA-LA-LUUU-YAH!!!” Prosperity Is Yours my Brotha / Sista. Just Give Him all da Praise!!” “I can feel the anointing of God just comin’ down on me right now. It's Too bad we don’t have the choir here right now cause I feel like singin’ a song. Thank Yah Lord!” To: Mr. & Mrs. Middle or Lower Middle Class Mega Church member

Re: The True *** GOSPEL OF PROSPERITY***
King James Bible
Luke 19:26
“For I say unto you, That unto every one which …hath…shall
be given; …and from him that …hath not, …even that (which) he hath …shall …be… taken…away …from …him.”

Which category do you believe you’re in?

Which category do you believe your… M-e-g-a C-h-u-r-c-h …considers… YOU to be in???

The Bible considers RICH people to be those “Which Hath”.

The Bible considers the poor as those “Which Hath Not”.

So, as a Mega Church member who tithes 10% of YOUR income, but you’re somewhere between middle to lower middle class or even below, and you’re HOPING that “God” is going to “Bless” you for your faithful and unselfish giving,… WHICH category would you seriously believe YOUR Mega Church …C-O-N-S-I-D-E-R-S… YOU to be in???

Here is some NEWS for you … as far as YOUR Mega Church is concerned, the last part of that bible verse applies to YOU!!!

YOU’RE not RICH so YOU are the one “Which Hath Not!” So, the little that you DO “Hath” …is being taken away from you A-L-R-E-A-D-Y!! (10% of your income and “offerings” being given to the church)

The ONLY People… who are TRULY being “Blessed” (REPAID) by “GIVING” to a Mega Church are the …RICH… people, THOSE WHICH HATH (They also “HATH” access to the pastor 24 / 7). It is to THEM ..that …MORE IS… ALREADY… BEING …GIVEN!!! They’re NOT the ones who are W-A-I-T-I-N-G for “God” to BURST through the clouds and pour out blessings upon them. THEY’RE ALREADY RECEIVING IT in the form of B-E-N-E-F-I-T-S from the GOVERNMENT (IRS) AND THE PASTOR (FAVORS Through the Church) that YOU (as a “HATH NOT”) WILL NOT receive.

If YOUR Pastor (who preaches about Prosperity) REALLY WANTED to see YOU prosper, don’t YOU think it would be a good idea for HIM to at LEAST tell you the TRUTH (IN FULL DETAIL ) about how HE’S Prospering???

In motivational seminars, you’re told to “treat a successful businessman to lunch and ask him to TELL YOU how HE became successful”. Do you believe that YOUR Mega Church Pastor would be willing to put you down in his appointment book??

Don’t YOU think it’s about time for you to be told the WHOLE truth by YOUR Pastor before you decide to waste anymore of your time and money at that church???

SINCERE LEADERS L-E-A-D B-Y E-X-A-M-P-L-E !!!

IF HE’S WILLING… AND, IF HE IS SINCERE ABOUT WANTING TO SEE YOU PROSPER THE WAY HE HAS, THIS IS WHAT HE SHOULD TELL YOU:

“Brother / Sister, Unless you’ve got some extraordinary talent, or some OTHER sure shot business plan to make Millions for yourself, If you want the “Almighty God” of the “Bible” to bless you, You Must be willing and motivated to do exactly what I and others LIKE me have already done AND are currently doing in order to have the type of success that We’re Now Enjoying. Do you really want it?? If so, then you can have it! Praise the Lord, Thank you Jesus!! So, this is what you have to do: ” You Have To… Start Y-O-U-R O-W-N Church!!!”

” My Brother / Sister, UNLESS YOU’RE WILLING TO START YOUR OWN CHURCH, YOU WON’T BE….. “BLESSED”….. LIKE ME OR ANY OTHER MEGA CHURCH PREACHER / EVANGELIST / PASTOR / MINISTER !!!”

” Ha-la-luuuu-yah!! Brother, Sister, At every Sunday Morning worship service, you can have All of the “Hath Not’s” practically bowing down at your footstool, humbly, and with meekness, offering a tenth of their precious labor to YOU, the CHILD OF THE KING!! Praise God!!”

“Yes, My Brother, My Sister, when you yourself become a Mega Church Pastor like Me and you’ve got all of that money justa… ROOOOOOLLIN’ IN, Oh, praise God, THEN you can have yo-self a Bentley! AND, you can have a Rolls Royce. Thaaaats right, Brother / Sister. Why have only one? Have two! Praise the Lord. THEN, you can reside in a Mansion that sits on the top of that Hill and have it staffed with the best maids and butlers who’ll eagerly wait on you on hand and foot! Gah-Looo-rey-tah-God!!!”

“WoooHooo!! Thaaank yah, Jeeeesus!! My Lord!! MMmmmmm!! And the landscapers!! Oh, Lord… You should watch em as they’re doin’ all of the tendin’ to on all of that beautiful sprawlin’ glorified property property of yours!! LLLLLoooord, Have Mercy!!! Boooooy, wait til’ ya see it. And The pool cleaners! God Bless em. They’re justa keepin’ that pool lookin’ so crispy clean and just so blue and so perrrrdy!! It’s Just like lookin’ up at dah sky on a clear sunny day!! Praise God!! Oh, Thank Yah Jesus! And Don’t forget you gotta have somebody to look after all a dem other fancy cars you’ll be collectin’, Brotha!! . Glooooory tah God.

“THEN, My Brother / Sister, just you wait til dat precious moment comes when ya get tah taste the finest, Theeeeee mmmmost de-li-cious foods and desserts that God has ever blessed a mans hands to create Gah-lory-tah God… AND, They’re all prepared for ya by your very own Professional Chef. LLLLLLooorrrrd HAVE MERCY!!! um, um um!! Ooooh, my God!! YOU just wait till ya get a taste of that. Praaaaise God!!! MMMMMMMMMMM … ummmm ummm um um!!! Tah he he he!! Thank Yah, Jesus!!”

Haaaa Ba Sha Ba La Kooom By Yah Ha Ba Shaa La Hahhh!!! OOooooh, Gah-looo-rey-tah-God!!”

“AND THEN, THEN, THEN, Oh Lord, Jesus! THEN, When You Look At Yourself in the Mirror, Glory tah God, Standin’ there wearing the finest and most expensive Taylor made suits!! Yes Sir Reee Lord!! Clothing fit for Kings AND Queens!! Oh, Yes Sir!! R-O-Y-A-L-T-Y !!! GAH-LOOO-RE-TAH-GOD, HA-LAY-LU-YAH!! Thank Yah, Jeeesus!! Ya see, cause NOW, You’re ACTIN’ LIKE The KINGS Kid. Bless God!!

YOU’VE PUT YOURSELF IN THE POSITION TO BE BLESSED BY THE LORD THY GOD!!!”
Yes, Sir. Oh, yes Lord! thank yah! God is Good!! I SAID YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS GOOD!! Praise the Lord. Just give him praise right now. Thank you Jesus.”

“THEN, Then, then, when ya need to get away from all ah da cryin’, and all da belly achin’ that’s goin’ on all around ya, Prrrrraaaaise the Lord, HE SAID THAT HE’LL DELIVER YA, DIDN’T HE?? That’s just what he’ll do for ya… Thaaaaank ya Lord… Give him all the praise!! HE’ LL HAVE YOU MOUNTED UP ON WINGS AND SOARING SO HIGH IN THE SKY LIKE THE EAGLES IN JUST NO TIME AT ALL! Glory da God!!”

“You can just jump rrrrrright oooooon up in that beautiful private jet airplane and just flyyyyyy, flyyyyyyy, flyyyyyy right on away from here, Brother, and tah anywhere Ya Wont To. HA-LA-LUUU-YA! Can I get an AMEN, Brother / Sister?? Gloooory tah God, Thank you Jeeeeeesus!! Praaaaise him, just give him praise. Thank ya Lord.”

“OOOOoooo, Ha-la-luuuuu-yah!!!! Ha-la-luuuuu-yah!!
Glory to God!!”

“Now, there’s just one more VERY important thaang ya gotta remember. The people who you’ve GOT to pray for, are the ones which HATH NOT. Those are the ones ya gotta lay hands on and pray over. It looks good. It’ll make em feel better. But never, never, never offer tah tell em exactly what they gotta do dah get tah where YOU are. If the Lord really wonts em ta know, just let HIM lead em to ya just like he led YOU tah me. Now ya got all a dat??”

“Well, Praise The Lord. Just give em Praise! CAUSE NOW, THAT YOU’VE GOTTEN YOURSELF IN A POSITION TO BE BLESSED, NOW HE CAN BLESS YA! NOW HE CAN CAUSE YA TAH PROSPER! PRAISE THE LORD HA HA!! NOW HE CAN MAKE EVERY THANG YA TOUCH TURN INTO GOLD GAH-LOOO-REY- TA- GOD!!! ALL YA GOTTA DO IS JUST HANG RIGHT ON IN THEIR BROTHER / SISTER CAUSE NOW, YOU’RE ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW PATH TO PROSPERITY, AH HA!! THE PATH THAT FEW WILL FIND ER RAH HA!! LORD, HAVE MERCY!! BUT GIVE EM PRAISE BECAUSE HE HAS ANOINTED YOU, MY BROTHA / SISTA, AS HIS CHOSEN ONE, THANK YOU JESUS, TO BE THE VESSEL THAT’LL CARRY HIS WORD! Praise God. and You’ll be blessed for sure!! HA-LA-LUUU-YAH!!!” Prosperity Is Yours my Brotha / Sista. Just Give Him all da Praise!!”

“I can feel the anointing of God just comin’ down on me right now. It’s Too bad we don’t have the choir here right now cause I feel like singin’ a song. Thank Yah Lord!”

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